Magma; the design flow master extends
its design flow expertise to analog/mixed signal
Magma has pioneered the 'easy-design-flow' concept in VLSI
design. Magma's chip design software is widely used in final
stages of semiconductor chip design. Magma is founded and
headed by an Indian born American Rajeev Madhavan. Just
like other EDA software companies, Magma has significant
presence in India. Recently Magma has appointed Alok Mehrotra
as Managing Director of its India business. I recently talked
to him about Magma's products and VLSI design industry in
general, here are the excerpts.
Q: What's new at this year's MUSIC conference?
Alok Mehrotra (AM): If you are aware of the history of
the Magma, Magma came and revolutionized the semiconductor
design industry by combining the flow (design flow). We
came up with a unified data model, basically combining multiple
tools doing critical parts of implementation into a single
flow, making it a lot faster and lot more predictable. Because
of this innovation, Magma has become very popular. The competition
went ahead and copied and now all of the competitors offer
a unified flow. The new thing that we announced at Music
this year is that - we have come out with a similar revolutionary
flow for analog mixed signal design. We also announced the
success of tools such as Tekton and FineSim. These tools
run 10 times faster than the best competitors tools. These
give the customers very large saving both in hardware as
well as turn around time.
Q: What are the key technology trends now in VLSI industry?
AM: Design implementation has become very well defined
-lot of the times because of the complexity of designs increasing
exponentially - lot of time is being spent in validation
(timing validation). The Tekton tool that we announced successfully
addresses that trend, where people need to simulate and
time multiple corners, multiple volts. And the complexity
of the designs makes very daunting task - because, you can't
have these parts fail. So having such a daunting task, both
Tekton and FineSim address exactly that.
Q: Can you explain what exactly is the market demand and
what exactly the VLSI design engineers asking you in terms
of features?
AM: I am going to cover 2 points. The 1st point is, design
size and complexity has increased exponentially and so majority
of the time the large portion of the design time is going
into timing verification and simulation of the very complex
circuits; that is one trend.
The 2nd trend is that - more and more people are looking
for early and predictable design closure - what do we mean
by early and predictable design closure is that they want
to be able to asses most parameters very early, both RTL
and pre RTL.
So very early in the design cycle they want to have a predictable
flow - so they want to be able to floor them and - budget
- and wanted to synthesize very accurately and aware of
physical metrics.
Q: Can you explain how are the design tools changing when
the design nodes are moving 45nm and less? Recently IBM
has said design rules going to explode when it comes to
30 - 20 nm range, what are your observations on this?
AM: We find many customers already moving to 28nm and Magma
is selected as flow of choice and we already looking at
22 nm. The new nodes further increase the complexity of
design implementation challenge and number of changes with
these design rules, people have to redesign number of their
key IPs, that's one thing and the second thing is there
is strong trend towards increase in the mixed signal proportion
with in the design.
Q: what are your observations on India's semiconductor
industry? Where exactly it is heading? Do you foresee great
chips coming out of local Indian semiconductor design firms?
AM: The quality and complexity of the design being done
in India is top notch - and they are working on the most
challenging design being done anywhere in the world - so,
what that means is that the expertise of working on the
most challenging design is already in India and is growing.
There are two effects of this trend - one, India is now
playing a very strong influential role on both the tool
and flow decisions for the large semiconductor companies
as well as they are playing key role in success of semiconductor
companies
Q: Can you also tell about local designers based in India,
are they really growing?
AM: The expertise has grown to where they have the ability
to work on the most complex designs and design problems
of today and they now have strong position of influence
towards the success of the MNCs. The second part of this
trend is - you have seen the emergence of many IP and product
companies, when we say IP, typically in a design, IP is
the differentiating factor. In India the trend is - IP as
well as many product companies have emerged. Let me give
some examples - you see company like Sankhya - very strong
products company, you have Sankalp Semiconductor and you
have Ittiam. There is large number of such companies. Another
company deserved to be mentioned is C2 Silicon started by
Dr. Satya Gupta. C2 Silicon is a pure play design house.
Q: Excluding US Euorpe and Japan, what are the other top
3 markets by region for Magma?
AM: I don't yet have that information, if you were to look
at the amount of design activities that's ongoing with in
the MNCs in India, it could be India, Korea (South Korea)
and Taiwan
Q:What about china?
AM: Tons of design going on in China using Magma - sort
of- I would rather combine China and Taiwan.
Q: How does the cost of EDA tools matter in total SoC design
cost?
AM: EDA tools makes significant impact on the success of
a SoC design - but really EDA tools is a very small part
of a SoC design cost. If you look at the SoC design cost,
may be 40 to 60million, you are looking at the tool cost
of only being no more than total of 3 to 5million (based
on the node). Cost is not substantial but the benefit is
very significant.
Q: What are the technologies nodes getting obsolete? You
know nodes like 130 nm and bigger, what are the nodes getting
useless now?
AM: I don't really think that number of nodes have become
useless, I think that new production techniques like multi-chip
module enable people to do their analog on a older process
and digital on a newer process - so, I think there is still
life left in 130 nm, 90 nm 65nm and I think those are still
very much prevalent and I don't think they have become obsolete
yet.
Q: For the fresh electronic engineers, what are your three
points of suggestion on checklist basis to prepare the engineer
for getting into VLSI design?
AM: VLSI design is still a very high value role, other
fields like medical as well as green energy is making very
attractive market. For the engineers I would say that they
should adopt the latest technology that gives them an edge
and look for markets like medical and energy for innovative
applications - and the third one specific to India is, there
is a market full of opportunities for indigenous products,
I am aware of multiple projects ongoing which are taking
in existing technologies and targeting it with the required
changes to the India. That is very strong entrepreneurial
opportunity.